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What's Your Repeatable Format?
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What's Your Repeatable Format?

Call Her Daddy became a $500 million company — Matt on the one transferable lesson underneath the empire, and why your first couple hundred fans matter more than her millions

Alex Cooper’s media company Unwell just took its first outside investment at a $500 million valuation, on its way, Matt suspects, to making her a billionaire. It started as one person (with a co-host) talking candidly into a mic and grew into a podcast network, live events, streaming projects, consumer products, and a creative agency. Matt’s quick to say this isn’t the path most of us are on, and he sets the controversy aside to get at the business lesson — because there’s one underneath the empire that’s genuinely transferable, no matter your scale.

The lesson: find your repeatable format and commit to it. Cooper found a medium that let her show up over and over, hone her craft, and build an audience until she knew exactly who she served — and then she drilled in. That’s the move. What’s the format that lets a bit of your personality out, tells people where to find you in a chaotic feed, and lets you keep practicing? A newsletter isn’t one thing; it’s a blank palette for your unique expression. Same for a podcast, video, or audio-only. The magic isn’t the medium, it’s the repetition — Call Her Daddy has run many hundreds of episodes, and that consistency is what compounds. Matt reframes the goal, too: you don’t need Cooper’s millions, you need your first couple hundred true fans. Do it right and your audience becomes a market that becomes a community, and the overlap of those two is where the signal gets strong enough to tell you what to build next. It scales however you want — a media empire, or a two-person consultancy doing $3 million a year. The question is the same either way: what’s the repeatable format you’ll keep coming back to, fall on your face on, and show up for until the inflection point arrives? (Matt’s own answer is this show — still hovering around 50 Substack subscribers, and honest that losing even one stings, but growing across every platform, and he’s grateful you’re part of it.)

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